You love cartoons. Why don't you have any interest in the X-Files?
I loved the fact that Scully was so trigger happy. I loved Mulder. Who reminds me of me. I loved the fact that the X-Files skirted the edge of the plausible and genuinely unknown. Hey: explain away this email from a friend of mine, Lloyd Pye, whom I've met and quarrelled with bitterly but who is by no means an idiot:
"1) I'll be on Coast to Coast radio with George Noory this Friday night, Sept. 18th, the first two hours, 10 pm to 12 midnight PST. We'll discuss the latest developments with the Starchild, updates about it, etc. We'll also discuss the recent "alien" body revealed on Mexican TV by Jaime Maussan. That "alien" is the tiny being that the farmer claims he drowned in 2007.For details check: www.coasttocoastam.com
2) Incredible result! You'll recall my last message to you was about the Daily Mail of England spiking a full two-page story about the Starchild scheduled to go out to 6 million readers on June 24th. I also mentioned that I had heard nothing about it from the Daily Mail since they spiked it. That message to you, my mailing list, was picked up by a number of UFO websites and blogs around the world, one of which was Mania.com in England itself.
www.mania.com/235-degrees-mission-starchild-part-deux_article_117560.htm
www.mania.com/235-degrees-mission-starchild-part-deux_article_117560.htm
That link is to Part Two, my follow-up, which was similar to my follow-up to you apologizing for making it sound like I was begging for $20 from each of you. I hope we all have that squared away now. I need you to buy the new eBook and make yourselves familiar with its contents so you can become the smartest person in the room if anyone starts talking about UFOs and/or aliens. I need as many of you as possible to KNOW as many of the facts about it as possible. The new eBook is the best way to go about that, guaranteed. Okay?
www.starchildproject.com/starchild_ebook.htm
www.starchildproject.com/starchild_ebook.htm
(NOTE: At the end of Part Two on the Mania site is a bare-knuckled intellectual brawl between me and a couple of the usual skeptics who inevitably patrol websites or blogs where people "trash" their precious status quo. If you have time to read those exchanges, you'll see what happens when two individuals who haven't even bothered to visit the Starchild website try to tangle with someone who has been living it, eating it, and breathing it for over ten years! It's not pretty, but it was... satisfying."
I'm thinking you all aren't so brave in person as your imaginations are. You like science fiction as long as it's definitely ABSOLUTELY fiction. Lloyd has pauperized himself pursuing a scientific study of an inexplicable but genuine artifact. Yet I'm guessing you'd mostly write him off as a lunatic even as you plunge happily into your usual mud wrestling about sci fi movie icons.
There really are "X-files." All over the place. I have it on good authority that they're even going to risk another attack from the Darwinistas "Over There" sometime soon. With prejudice.
But you'd rather talk about comic books.
God love ya.
P.S. btw, X-Files was dramatically superior to most of what you spend your time celebrating and defending here. Better written. Better acted. Filled with a foreboding mood that occasionally even got delivered on.
But you prefer comic books. Faugh.
I'm thinking you all aren't so brave in person as your imaginations are. You like science fiction as long as it's definitely ABSOLUTELY fiction. Lloyd has pauperized himself pursuing a scientific study of an inexplicable but genuine artifact. Yet I'm guessing you'd mostly write him off as a lunatic even as you plunge happily into your usual mud wrestling about sci fi movie icons.
There really are "X-files." All over the place. I have it on good authority that they're even going to risk another attack from the Darwinistas "Over There" sometime soon. With prejudice.
But you'd rather talk about comic books.
God love ya.
P.S. btw, X-Files was dramatically superior to most of what you spend your time celebrating and defending here. Better written. Better acted. Filled with a foreboding mood that occasionally even got delivered on.
But you prefer comic books. Faugh.
It's not that I "prefer" comic books as much as I prefer slamming them. The whole point of the line of posts I've been doing here is exposing leftist propaganda dressed up like entertainment and how liberals are recycling the same garbage today.
ReplyDeleteCome on, are you telling me you weren't even a teeny bit amused by the Avengers astroturfing story? If so, I think you are letting snobbery get the best of you. Yes, these are childish books, but that's the point! Look at the kind of crap these people peddle to kids, and most of their parents are clueless about it.
More than that, these posts have a personal note to them because I quite honestly feel betrayed by the media looking back on all of this. The assholes that wrote this stuff were trying to indoctrinate me, and I take that personally. I was able to recognize this trash for what it was earlier than most kids thanks in large part to who my parents are. Some of my kids never broke out of that left-leaning mindset and still drinking the kool aid to this day, which is hard for me to imagine.
As for the X-Files, I tried getting into it during the first season and I had the reaction you did to Star Wars: "so what?" I just never cared for it. That being said, I understand that the show changed from isolated cases to a continuous story at some point. I did see one episode at random during some later season involving anthrax bees and the Smoking Man. I thought that was very good, but it seemed to me that the show existed to drag things out as long as possible. It was like 8 or 9 seasons of teasing the audience.
I think the final nail in the coffin of my interest for X-Files was when a movie came out but the show was still going to keep airing. If that's the case, why have a movie? It's essentially a two hour episode. I think if a TV show has a movie it should be like Serenity. Now I could be wrong, here, as Lake said I was about Lost, but that's just my impression and why I never got into it (since you asked).
And regarding aliens, I will check out the link since you recommend it, but here are my pre-checking out comments. I won't be so arrogant as to claim I "know" your friend is a fool or a lunatic, but I am highly skeptical. Why? Because of the Truther paradox. Bush is so evil and bad that he plotted 9/11, right? Yet he allows every nincompoop in the country to present all of their supposed evidence in any form of media they want and nothing happens to them.
Same thing with the aliens. Why wouldn't everybody know about it in the internet age almost instantly? The only thing keeping governments and major media from confirming the story would be some sort of vast gov't conspiracy. But if such a thing exists, how has the Starchild guy in Mexico not disappeared in the dead of night long ago along with his alien body? You say this has been going on for 10 years and it's not common knowledge by now?
In short, my answer to aliens is the Fox sisters. Wiki them if you don't know who I mean. I think many of these people are charlatans. Let me reserve any other comments until after I have checked out your link, then I'll weigh in again.
Why exactly would The Establishment be interested in suppressing Pye's findings? On the contrary, it seems to me that proof of alien involvement in our species would be extraordinarily popular. Most people seem to want to believe there are aliens out there somewhere. The "Darwinistas" would have to re-work some of their theory, true... but it would certainly put a silver bullet in the brains of the dreaded Creationists. It doesn't disprove evolution anyway.... just pushes it to another planet. Folks like Francis Crick have suggested as much in the past. And it is atheists and agnostics who are the most enthusiastic about programs like SETI (Sagan and "Contact" anyone?), not coincidentally because of the wrench it would throw into so many theologies.
ReplyDeleteIf the DNA in Pye's skull really could be identified as non-human, he'd be sitting on the centerpiece of a museum exhibit that would put King Tut's traveling show to shame (and I stood in line for hours to see that one). I would think any number of investors would be keen to get in on that action if they thought he had a case. I'll admit that the DNA report on his site went mostly over my head, but from what I could make out it sounded like what they found was in fact human.
"Some of my kids never broke out of that left-leaning mindset..."
ReplyDeleteMeant to say "friends", not "kids". My greatest fear is that my kids will grow up to be like those friends. Freudian slip or something there.
Okay, checked out the link. I am not impressed. I'm with Will on this one. If this skull is for real, why hasn't anyone stepped up yet to cash in on authenticating it? I can't think of any plausible answer to that question.
ReplyDeleteI also looked through the Amazon reviews of his book, a lot of which were openly written by Pye's friends and others involved in his project, and the whole thing feels a lot like an infomercial. All of them are asking for money to put towards the magical new DNA test, which is our only hope of proving the Starchild skull is real. And if we donate in the next five minutes, we get a free stick of Mighty Putty.
Pye may not be an idiot, but he's probably a snake oil salesman, just like Jonathan Edwards or the Fox sisters. If it were me, I'd put out as much information as possible for free to try and convince people first, then ask for money second. Unless, that is, Starchild is Pye's full time job, which would make this whole thing stink even more.
Now I don't have a dog in this fight (no offense there, Trigger) as far as the existence of aliens goes. Either way I won't feel like it will destroy my faith. It's when I have to pay up front that I get really suspicious. Plus, browse around that Coast to Coast AM site for a few minutes. You can learn a lot about someone based on who they associate with.
"Snake oil salesman"? Isn't that a bit harsh?
ReplyDeleteI don't think a snake-oil salesman would be so keen on getting DNA tests. It's pretty risky... After all, if the tests come back negative for anything non-human, you've pretty much killed your "snake" for good.
My impression is that Pye is a True Believer. He's got a much more interesting case than nutjob UFOers. He's got an actual skull, which really does look very, very strange. He's got a theory, and he's putting money where his theory is by having DNA tests run on it. I don't think he's just a run-of-the-mill UFO looney. I'd be thrilled for him to be right... So far, though, I'm unconvinced. In the newsgroup discussion Trigger linked to, Pye was talking as if the DNA test was a lock, proving that the skull wasn't fully human. However, I couldn't see anything in the test report suggesting that. On the contrary, I saw text that seemed to say that the skull was not only human, but clearly Amerindian.
When you get down to discussing highly technical evidence, to the rest of us it really boils down to a war between authorities. Pye can point to details that he sees as clear indicators of alien genetics. I don't know enough to either validate or reject his conclusions. And, frankly, I don't know that Pye knows enough either. If some reputable authority were to come down on Pye's side, I'd have to give that some weight. The claim might be made that it's not going to happen, because there's some kind of conspiracy to reject the possibility out-of-hand. What I was questioning in my original comment was why such a conspiracy would exist in the first place. There's significant wealth to be made by proving Pye right. Surely there's some greedy bastard out there who's in a position to understand the evidence Pye's submitting...
Maybe it was a bit harsh. I don't want to sound like I'm angry or afraid of what Pye is doing. He's free to spend his time however he wants. I would also be thrilled if he's right, but there are several things that don't pass the smell test for me:
ReplyDelete1. He and all of his Starchild associates have their hand out. Scammers are always asking for money and this operation just doesn't feel right. It's like, "I really, really want to tell you all the fantastic things I know, but first send me $20."
2. Guilt by association. Pye is in a field full of frauds and looneys. Even if he's honest, being smack in the middle of all those other guests on Coast to Coast AM can't help to shore up his credibility very much.
3. If Pye is a true believer, do you really think he'll accept his mistake if the DNA test doesn't work out as planned? I doubt he would just walk away and not find some way to rationalize to himself that the DNA test is the one that's wrong. If he's not a true believer, he can still do the same thing in regards to the DNA test; just find some reason why it didn't work. Maybe that lab was in on the conspiracy, but suddenly there's another lab that can do the same test now, but we need to raise another $200,000, etc.
4. As Will is more eloquently pointing out, I can't accept that not one single investor in the world hasn't already jumped on this thing. I also can't think of what governments or anyone else would have to gain by stifling this research. If there really was such a conspiracy, wouldn't it simply be easier for those involved to make this guy and his skull disappear? Also, great point about having to defer to another authority, Will.
But, again, this is only my opinion. I wish Pye peace and long life and all the success in the world. To be able to accurately call Pye a nut or not I'd have to crack open a biology textbook or two, research methods of DNA testing, which labs do what testing, attempt to get price quotes, and would also probably have to meet Pye in person and do my own examinations of the skull. But, I've got better things to do...like writing posts for Metalkort to keep Bulldozer happy.
Snake oil salesman?
ReplyDeleteA wonderful way to make a living when no one anywhere is buying snake oil. And all the professional herpetologists are saying there is no such thing.
Has it occurred to you that Pye's supporters are asking for money because DNA tests cost lots of money? And Pye himself lives hand to mouth pursuing his obsession?
I have actually met the man. If the Starchild skull is purely human, I assure you he'll be the first one to admit it. He's pursuing an incredibly exciting possibility and has for long years received nothing in return but fairly automatic dismissals and abuse like yours. Except that most of his critics are demonstrably wrong on the science. The skull is HIGHLY anomalous and NOT explained by the pat excuses. I've held it in my hands. Lloyd met with me on the strength of my curiosity and never asked me for a dime. We've quarrelled about other scientific matters, and it was he who relented and resumed communication, and never ever asked me for a dime.
I made contact with him in the first place because he wrote a fascinating and well researched book on another topic and I couldn't believe ythat he had links from his website to the crazies you mention. I told him how damaging that was to his credibility. He acquainted me with the fact that the only hope of gaining any funding for his real project (Starchild) meant publicity and the opportunity to go on air in the twilight world of Coast to Coast AM and other venues that were mixes of legitimate inquiry and hoaxers.
What I can tell you for sure. He's smart. Very. Could have, and could still, make a much better living writing Charles Forte type sensationalism than what he's been doing for the past 20 or 30 years. He's absolutely in love with ideas and he's passionately convinced that the Dawkinists are killing genuine scientific inquiry. He has a life's worth of battle scars to prove it.
All I can say is, funny how the easy assumptions kick in and stay kicked in, even when you have a hint they might not apply in this case.
The book manuscript of his I read for free on the Internet? The one that caused me to write him? "Everything You Know Is Wrong."
He's a man on a quest, fully inured to your prima facie contempt for him. I admire him. I wish there were more like him. I'm proud to call him a friend.
Final note. after months of no communication, he emailed me out of the blue to tell me he'd read the story of a concert cellist who'd performed at the Washington metro as part of an experiment to see if people would recognize real talent and stop to listen. He said it made him think of me. This from a guy whom I had insulted deeply for ideas he held I could not and would not accept.
As I said, I'm proud to call him friend. Whatever else you think of him, he has a sense of old-fashioned honor and fundamental decency I don't see much of anymore.
It's for his sake that I hope the skull is the grail he's bet his life on.
"As I said, I'm proud to call him friend. Whatever else you think of him, he has a sense of old-fashioned honor and fundamental decency I don't see much of anymore.
ReplyDeleteIt's for his sake that I hope the skull is the grail he's bet his life on."
Very well, then. All charges of snake oil salesman and loony are revoked. He really needs to get that DNA test done, though. And since I am neither in a position to help him nor accurately judge him to be right or wrong, I can't get too fired up about his research until he's proven right.
You asked for an opinion, I gave mine and explained why I feel the way I do. Surely, Trigger, you of all people - er - sentient animals can understand how someone can be dismissive about something involving a subject they have little respect for or interest in. After all, it's what you've done to me with my posts involving comic books.